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	<title>Comments on: What The Girls Next Door Need to Know About Childbirth and Vaginas</title>
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		<title>By: Science &#38; Sensibility &#187; No Difference? The case of cesarean surgery and postpartum infection</title>
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		<dc:creator>Science &#38; Sensibility &#187; No Difference? The case of cesarean surgery and postpartum infection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] women having vaginal births avoid practices that increase the risk of perineal trauma and thus the risk of perineal infection, such as episiotomy, instrumental delivery, and fundal [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jenniferW</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceandsensibility.org/?p=226&#038;cpage=1#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>jenniferW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laboring and birthing in water also is a good perineum protector -- so many water birthers end up with not a single tear. Plus, if you&#039;re submerged in water, your hcp is much less likely to be able to get to you with a pair of scissors!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laboring and birthing in water also is a good perineum protector &#8212; so many water birthers end up with not a single tear. Plus, if you&#8217;re submerged in water, your hcp is much less likely to be able to get to you with a pair of scissors!</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Romano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Romano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re right about pitocin. In Albers study (see bibliography), pitocin in labor wasn&#039;t an independent risk factor - meaning it didn&#039;t act alone to increase the chance of genital tract trauma. But anything that increases the likelihood of epidural AND abnormal fetal heart rate patterns is bound to increase the chances of injury. 

As for the cosmetic surgery mentality, it is all quite sad. I wonder why a vagina that has birthed a human being is so disparaged by our culture. Even if that&#039;s how you see things, save the surgery for after the birth, and let your baby out in the way that is safest and healthiest for you both. And if we take care of women in the way that is optimal, we may find that we put the vaginoplasty folks out of business, because we might just discover that all of that injury was from meddling in childbirth, rather than from the birth itself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right about pitocin. In Albers study (see bibliography), pitocin in labor wasn&#8217;t an independent risk factor &#8211; meaning it didn&#8217;t act alone to increase the chance of genital tract trauma. But anything that increases the likelihood of epidural AND abnormal fetal heart rate patterns is bound to increase the chances of injury. </p>
<p>As for the cosmetic surgery mentality, it is all quite sad. I wonder why a vagina that has birthed a human being is so disparaged by our culture. Even if that&#8217;s how you see things, save the surgery for after the birth, and let your baby out in the way that is safest and healthiest for you both. And if we take care of women in the way that is optimal, we may find that we put the vaginoplasty folks out of business, because we might just discover that all of that injury was from meddling in childbirth, rather than from the birth itself!</p>
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		<title>By: Jill--Unnecesarean</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceandsensibility.org/?p=226&#038;cpage=1#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill--Unnecesarean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Childbirth Mythbusters! Nice.

There is a lot of mythology around the idea that doctors or women can intervene somehow in the final weeks of pregnancy to prevent &quot;damage&quot; to the mother&#039;s body. It&#039;s a cosmetic surgery mentality. I am pretty sure it&#039;s mostly a meme perpetuated by journalists but it&#039;s sticking. If 37 weeks is term, then I can avoid stretch marks by scheduling a c-section or an induction then, right? I can avoid hemmorhoids or pelvic floor damage by scheduling an early birth or surgery, right? Isn&#039;t that what the celebrities do?

I&#039;d add to avoid unnecessary Pitocin, if possible. I have met countless women, including many good friends, who were told they needed to induce or just augment with a little Pit, then found their pain reaching unmanageable peaks, at which point they were promptly offered an epidural. Then their story becomes that labor pain is unbearable and impossible. Artificially augmented and induced labor usually hurts! A lot!

The other effect of multiple interventions is that I hear many women say that they&#039;re just not really good at laboring. I never know what to say so I don&#039;t really say anything-- I just listen. I wonder how they would feel if they were able to give birth in optimal-- or at least better-- conditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Childbirth Mythbusters! Nice.</p>
<p>There is a lot of mythology around the idea that doctors or women can intervene somehow in the final weeks of pregnancy to prevent &#8220;damage&#8221; to the mother&#8217;s body. It&#8217;s a cosmetic surgery mentality. I am pretty sure it&#8217;s mostly a meme perpetuated by journalists but it&#8217;s sticking. If 37 weeks is term, then I can avoid stretch marks by scheduling a c-section or an induction then, right? I can avoid hemmorhoids or pelvic floor damage by scheduling an early birth or surgery, right? Isn&#8217;t that what the celebrities do?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d add to avoid unnecessary Pitocin, if possible. I have met countless women, including many good friends, who were told they needed to induce or just augment with a little Pit, then found their pain reaching unmanageable peaks, at which point they were promptly offered an epidural. Then their story becomes that labor pain is unbearable and impossible. Artificially augmented and induced labor usually hurts! A lot!</p>
<p>The other effect of multiple interventions is that I hear many women say that they&#8217;re just not really good at laboring. I never know what to say so I don&#8217;t really say anything&#8211; I just listen. I wonder how they would feel if they were able to give birth in optimal&#8211; or at least better&#8211; conditions.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel Miller, CNM</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceandsensibility.org/?p=226&#038;cpage=1#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel Miller, CNM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Information! I couldn&#039;t have said it better myself. So many women have unrealistic expectations when it comes to labor and birth. Unfortunately, it is now the &quot;norm&quot; to get an epidural. I work with nurses who think it is absurd to &quot;go through all that pain&quot; when they can be pain free. &quot;Are you getting an epidural?&quot; is the next question after getting the patient&#039;s name. Sigh...I birth naturally one mom at a time, that is all we can do....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Information! I couldn&#8217;t have said it better myself. So many women have unrealistic expectations when it comes to labor and birth. Unfortunately, it is now the &#8220;norm&#8221; to get an epidural. I work with nurses who think it is absurd to &#8220;go through all that pain&#8221; when they can be pain free. &#8220;Are you getting an epidural?&#8221; is the next question after getting the patient&#8217;s name. Sigh&#8230;I birth naturally one mom at a time, that is all we can do&#8230;.</p>
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